Add "%" style repeat symbol for repeat bars/measures
in progress
Derek Lee
This request is specifically for the "%" style repeat bar.
There are other kinds of repeats in music, and these other styles of repeats have been separated out into their own enhancement requests:
Repeat a specific section using repeat bar lines: https://roadmap.beat-note.app/feature-requests/p/repeat-a-specific-section-using-begin-end-repeat-barlines
Repeat for different sections: https://roadmap.beat-note.app/feature-requests/p/add-the-ability-to-configure-repeating-different-sections
"%" style repeat multiple times: https://roadmap.beat-note.app/feature-requests/p/ability-to-configure-the-of-times-a-single-measure-repeat-repeats
Two-bar repeat: https://roadmap.beat-note.app/feature-requests/p/ability-to-include-the-2-bar-repeat-symbol
Derek Lee
Ross Farley & friends - I love seeing this as the top request! 🙌 I’m starting work on the “%” single-measure repeat and want your input.
How do you imagine it working in Beat Note?
(I’m keeping my ideas to myself for now so I don’t bias you—share your first instincts!)
P.S. This thread is only for the “%” single-measure repeat. The 2-bar symbol and other repeat styles are tracked separately. Feel free to vote/comment on those too so we keep this one focused. Thanks!
R
Ross Farley
Derek Lee Would having the option to turn any bar into a "%" bar in the dot menu work? Other related options could live there to (slash bars etc). Not sure how that would extend to 2-bar repeats though.
For multiple repeats, a "nice to have" extra would be for every 4 bars to have the count above it (4th bar, 8th bar etc). Useful for transcriptions/charts!
Hinrich Nagel
Derek LeeAn option to control the width of the bar could be very helpful. Up to now all bars in BN have the same width independently of its content. This is helpful for a clear structure of the beat (and my favorite view) but for an overview of a full song it could be helpful to shorten the width of the bar like the sample from Ross Farley.
Derek Lee
Ross Farley Thanks for your feedback, Ross!
Re: showing repeat counts - This has some pretty major impacts on playback, and the importance of insuring the user understands where they are in the music during playback, or when starting from a repeat sign, etc. I'm going to manage that in a separate enhancement request as it adds considerable complexity: https://roadmap.beat-note.app/feature-requests/p/ability-to-configure-the-of-times-a-single-measure-repeat-repeats
Derek Lee
Hinrich Nagel Thanks for your feedback! There are generally two ways of spacing for music engraving based on my research: natural compressed spacing and mathematical spacing.
Beat Note currently explicitly uses mathematical spacing for the display of all music notation. This is particularly useful when editing a measure and the music notation needs to be aligned to the grid to help the user understand what notes align with what portion of the grid.
That said, I agree that a more natural, compressed spacing would be appropriate for the locations in the app where only playback or reading are necessary (such as PDF export). I imagine the app should do this automatically and not be an option. That said, the logic required to program this is quite complicated, given the variety of layouts that the app needs to support (different devices, screens, orientations, etc).
Here's an enhancement request for your consideration: https://roadmap.beat-note.app/feature-requests/p/add-support-for-natural-compressed-spacing-when-engraving-music-in-non-edit-scre
Derek Lee
in progress
Planned for an upcoming release
Derek Lee
This request is specifically for the "%" style repeat bar.
There are other kinds of repeats in music, and these other styles of repeats have been separated out into their own enhancement requests:
Repeat a specific section using repeat bar lines: https://roadmap.beat-note.app/feature-requests/p/repeat-a-specific-section-using-begin-end-repeat-barlines
Repeat for different sections: https://roadmap.beat-note.app/feature-requests/p/add-the-ability-to-configure-repeating-different-sections
"%" style repeat multiple times: https://roadmap.beat-note.app/feature-requests/p/ability-to-configure-the-of-times-a-single-measure-repeat-repeats
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xiaoliao
Repeat for different section and indicate the row numberings (e.g. 26a or 26b)
Derek Lee
xiaoliao I've created a new request for this enhancement here, to distinguish as different from the original request for a "%" style repeat indicator: https://roadmap.beat-note.app/feature-requests/p/add-the-ability-to-configure-repeating-different-sections
Grant Jordan
Yes that would be very helpful for chart navigation
Derek Lee
planned
Moving this feature from "under review" to "planned" given the interest from the community. Thanks for submitting your votes for this feature!
R
Ross Farley
Derek Lee Hooray!
Susan Stevens
Derek Lee
Susan Stevens Thanks for sharing this additional feedback Susan! 🙇🏻♂️
Derek Lee
Susan Stevens I found another request that I think is more of what you are illustrating here: https://roadmap.beat-note.app/feature-requests/p/repeat-sign-in-the-end-of-a-bar
I'll add your vote to that request as well. Thanks! 🙏
Biren Kalaria
Derek Lee susan’s suggestion makes more sense… giving app clarity what it has to repeat however a number should be added how many time that section need to repeat
Derek Lee
Biren Kalaria Thanks for your feedback!
Derek Lee
Susan Stevens I've created a new request for this enhancement here, to distinguish as different from the original request for a "%" style repeat indicator: https://roadmap.beat-note.app/feature-requests/p/repeat-a-specific-section-using-begin-end-repeat-barlines Thanks!
Derek Lee
Hello friends! This seems to be a popular request.
Can I ask you to provide me with some musical examples where you want to use this?
Thanks!
Hinrich Nagel
Derek LeeI attached 2 examples: the first one (Solo No 2) is an exercise from my teacher and the realization with Beat Note. As you can see the # of written-measures increase to 36.
The second one (Get up Stand up) contains several elements of repeating and I'll like to transfer this song to BN but up to now I don't know how to accomplish this without increasing the written-measures to an excessive degree.
Derek Lee
under review
L
L
Yes Please!!
Derek Lee
L Thanks for your comment! Can you please share some examples of how you would use the "%" style repeat in your beats? Thank you! 🙏🏻
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